Exploring the north of Glamorgan
The first one looks like ploughman's spikenard, I can hear Evan's laughing from here.
The second flower is Blue Fleabane
Cheers paul great help.
Not laughing, Mike. Ploughman's Spikenard (sounds like one of those rustic euphemisms to me) it is. As well as Blue Fleabane, there is also Canadian Fleabane on the Robertstown site.
Excellent news, I knew/thought I'd seen it before, probably on a Merthyr brownfield site many years ago, though I'm not sure where. Cheers Mark